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    Builder Brand : Red Kite Prayer

    I haven't seen this here, but I think it's worth posting for some of us who may need to learn to think about this sort of thing at some point.
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    Be yourself. Work hard. Get orders. Work hard. Get more orders. Be yourself. Repeat. - Garro.
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    what garro said atmo.
    if you overtly or consciously cling to, embrace, or subscribe to a tactic, you're dead in the water before you start.
    only edoz can be edoz.
    that's why folks will call you.

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    A quote from Charles Schultz that I've always strove (striven?) to follow; " Be yourself, everyone else is taken"

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    Edoz - spend your time putting one foot in front of the other. There are sooooo many things you have to have down before you work on your "brand" - like, having one.
    Work on work flow, the ebb & flow of frame materials, the proper parts for the bikes and honing your chops.
    You better not be sitting around designing your "kits" when your {not as in "you" but the general sense} TIG beads need work, it takes weeks to build a frame or the WWW is where you ask what tubes you need to build XXX and you need to work on material flow {tubes in, bikes out} and then there is always customer relations to tend to.....
    having a matching "kit" but no standing orders is worse then putting the cart before the horse, it's like putting the cart before the reins. - Garro.
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    Steve, I hear you on the work flow thing. That's my biggest problem right now, and I sure don't need any 'business' to make it worse. I'm stalled on a frame right now waiting on brake bosses I thought I had but don't. How's that for work flow?
    Sometimes my mind wanders and I think about things that maybe don't matter or don't apply to my particular spot in the space-time continuum. You guys just keep telling me to get back to work and I'll be fine:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by edoz View Post
    Steve, I hear you on the work flow thing. That's my biggest problem right now, and I sure don't need any 'business' to make it worse. I'm stalled on a frame right now waiting on brake bosses I thought I had but don't. How's that for work flow?
    Sometimes my mind wanders and I think about things that maybe don't matter or don't apply to my particular spot in the space-time continuum. You guys just keep telling me to get back to work and I'll be fine:)
    Idle hands.......What brake bosses are you looking for? - Garro.
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    Eric, to be clear; I enjoyed the article, thanks for posting.
    BTW, if steve doesn't have the bosses you need, Hit me up. I have a couple types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    the ebb & flow of frame materials, the proper parts for the bikes...
    I read this as "eccentric bottom bracket" and had to do a double take. Wow- time for more coffee.

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    Thanks guys, but I already have some bosses on the way. I have used the Henry James ones in the past, but since I needed a few things from Paragon I figured I'd try out their 3 piece bosses. I may need to get a bunch, 'cause all my friends want all rounder/dirt road bikes now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    having a matching "kit" but no standing orders is worse then putting the cart before the horse, it's like putting the cart before the reins. - Garro.
    Amen! Even with a few standing orders, I had T's made last fall for the Philly show.... the money would have been much better spent on tooling or supplies rather than T's. Although, I did trade Herby Helm for one of his! Anyway, Garro speaks the truth... and clearly.

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    I guess that's the beauty of keeping my day job, I don't have to worry about anything but building bikes. Now if I can just keep the material on hand;)
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    I really enjoyed that article too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dornbox View Post
    Amen! Even with a few standing orders, I had T's made last fall for the Philly show.... the money would have been much better spent on tooling or supplies rather than T's. Although, I did trade Herby Helm for one of his! Anyway, Garro speaks the truth... and clearly.
    True words - you would be surprised how many t-shirts you can give away - Garro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricKeller View Post
    I really enjoyed that article too.
    I thought it was well written & I get his point, but at the same time, does he get his point? - Garro.
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    good point :)

    I was already thinking about this issue, so the article just resonated with me. We all have our own path, and I could never hope to copy Vanilla/Speedvagen. And more to the point, if I did try, it wouldn't work out for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricKeller View Post
    good point :)

    We all have our own path, and I could never hope to copy Vanilla/Speedvagen. And more to the point, if I did try, it wouldn't work out for me.
    See - you get the point. - Garro.
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    we should this link to the mix. i'm sure warwick would love the traffic. forza thy atmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    we should this link to the mix. i'm sure warwick would love the traffic. forza thy atmo.
    I actually read a few of the entries on there .....at last someone who else thinks efbe is bollocks....it confirmed a few things I have had doubts over regarding the entire European frame building thing just being wrong...thumbs up to that enlightening text

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    Quote Originally Posted by compositepro View Post
    I actually read a few of the entries on there .....at last someone who else thinks efbe is bollocks....it confirmed a few things I have had doubts over regarding the entire European frame building thing just being wrong...thumbs up to that enlightening text
    link me/us with an entry or three that speak to this atmo. thy seems like a bright guy
    to me, and likable. let's sort through the 1s and 0s and see what spoke to you there.

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